This is a tough call for me: but first let me congradulate you Pixie - Vamposers...that ROCKS, that so completely rocks. On the one hand I agree with your assessment of Vamposers all the way down the line, but the oozing angst-filled-whiners have reached such an apex of cliche' that at this point they seem like window dressing to me. Which makes them easy to ignore. I've had actual direct experience with the ninja wannabees: I once beat up and gave a wedgy to a ninja/vamposer (which is really asking for it anyways) after he pulled out a set of nunchakus in a game and nearly hit someone.