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roseembolism ([personal profile] roseembolism) wrote2017-09-19 09:31 pm
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The Punchng Nazis question.

I haven't been writing a lot recently, thanks to the stress of the current political climate. What I have been doing is reading a lot of news, and one of the things I've been reading most of all recently is condemnations of Antifa violence. Supposedly antifa violence is far worse than Nazi violence, because it]s provoking or something, Certainly the recent media coverage conveniently ignores the Nazis in favor of focusing on antifa, with pious comments about free speech, "Violence begets violence", and all that. Unfortunately much of the pro-antifa response has concentrated on the morality of punching Nazis, and hasn't really drilled down to the problem that the Nazis already are violent.

So my question has to be, at what point IS violence by the antifa justified? As in, how many people are the Nazis allowed to kill (with the tacit approval of the police and government), before it's OK to be violent back?

I mean it IS possible to make the case that the guy who was killing black people and who just happened to have a copy of Hitler's speeches in his house was just one disturbed individual. Doesn't mean anything. And the guy who drove his car into a crowd of protesters, killing one? Just one isolated confused person. And so on, and so on, and each act of violence by the Nazis will result in stern finger-waggling at the antifa- "See what you made them do?"

There is that rule: "Believe the autocrat. He means what he says." And when Nazis say they intend to kill anyone they hate, well, there are those who believe them. But that's evidently inappropriate.

So here's the question again: How many people will the Nazis be allowed to kill before we are allowed to fight back? (please round down to the nearest million) And at that point, will fighting back do any good? Will it be too late to run?