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roseembolism ([personal profile] roseembolism) wrote2009-06-02 11:27 am

Authoritarian Arcologies?

Arcologies are constantly popping up in the literature of Science Fiction, and there's something about huge, "cities in a building that just seems to appeal to the fannish sensibility.  I've always wondered why.  Well, apart form they're being spectacular, if impractical applications of extreme architecture.




But there's always been something monolithic and extravagant about arcologies that seems to hint at a sort of utopian monomania. In fact, the notion of an entire city in a single, pre-planned building implies a sort of top-down authoritarianism, as opposed to the organic growth that a normal city has.

So oddly enough, it was no surprise to find out that Soleri grew up in fascist Italy.  And multiple critiques  of Arcosanti, Soleri's perpetually-in-construction seed arcology by a former resident, has detailed a structure that denies dissent and critical discussion.  Aside from Dr. Neutopia, sociologist Paul Ray has reported on the lack of workers rights and freedom in Arcosanti.  The needs of the individuals in the community are subjugated to the vision of Soleri, which is odd, considering that Arcologies are supposed to be a better way to live. 

Certainly there seems no element of human scale in Soleri's designs, no scope for individual contributions.  It is also too easy to imagine a place like Hexahedron (above), being divided into the elite in the top half, and the workers in the lower section; the design seems all to  useful for restricting flow of people and items.  Critics like Neutopia have compared the management structure at Arcosanti, to that of China: "based on the age old authoritarian, patriarchal model of command and control of the masses."  Perhaps that's a reason why China seems to be leading the race to build a functioning arcology, and not just their need for low-ecological impact housing.

The larger question here, is whether this is merely a problem with Soleri's particular vision, or whether authoritarian governmental structures go hand-in hand with the idea of arcologies.  And if so, what does it say about the science fiction culture's fascination with the idea?
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[personal profile] mithriltabby 2009-06-02 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The former is imposed; the latter requires consensus. It is easy for the latter case to degenerate into the former, particularly when the administrators lose sight of “we’re fucked if we don’t pull together on this” and start thinking more in terms of “this is my chance to make it big”.

[identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
A big determinant is going to be the robustness of the checks and balances, and other feedback systems. One problem with Utopians and visionary architects is they often don't see the need for such.
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[personal profile] mithriltabby 2009-06-02 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Too true. The visionaries often get caught up in the physical engineering and neglect the social engineering required. Alastair Reynolds has some interesting ideas on the latter end with his Demarchist and Conjoiner societies.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
See Radiant City from Mr. X. It has wonderful architecture. Pity it drives the inhabitants insane...

[identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking about that myself, though Radient City isn't properly an Arcology.

And this points out another problem with an arcology; the problems will be greater than with a regular city if the contractors are found to be incompetent or corrupt. Imagine getting it completed, to find incompetent construction in the base.

[identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that has given me some ideas. And maybe my recent dealing with the plumbing has put me in the mood to write it.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2009-06-04 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Carlos Yu had an alternate history in which the target on 9/11 was the arcology in Oath of Fealty. The evacuation of the building didn't go as well as the ones at the WTC.

[identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com 2009-06-04 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
this (http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.history.what-if/browse_thread/thread/20f9c6729f6c65e1/23c0fe37a0ad5a7b?#23c0fe37a0ad5a7b)